highperformanceamc

well hell, the 830 slowed me down a shade. I only did two runs tonight, 1/8th mile, plenty of fuggin screwups at the track, and those dam go karts. I ran a 6.94 at 100.00 and a 7.08 @ 99.4. not quite as good as the two 6.82's it ran the other day, but not much worse at all. couldn't do too much to change it, as I wasn't really wanting to work on it, but I pulled a couple plugs when I got home, and they were white as a sheet, running too lean. car did feel a tad soft. so oh well, I guess the 830 will run better if and when I get the fuel curve tweeked in. so for the race saturday, I can gamble and toss some jets at it, hoping it comes close, or just put the 750 back on. I think thats what will happen. it sounded real nice with the 750, tonite it didn't quite have the sound. and Tubbed, nobody ever gives my car a second glance. good thing too.

650 double pumpers are hard to beat.

the smaller carb did run like a wicked bastard, but i think it was in the midrange. not a real monster up high. i think some tuning on the 830 will get a faster time. it's not like i run a lot of revs, i shifted the smaller carb at 5800, and it semed to work well. i'm gonna see how the 830 is jetted tonight.... the 830 is advertized as a "NASCAR" carb... i bet its just jetted kinda lean.... the 750 was right on the money and the plugs looked good enuff to eat. the same plugs after two runs with the 830 were white, and the soot on the body was light grey. needs more fuel!

spudster wrote:and Tubbed, nobody ever gives my car a second glance. good thing too.

You mean nobody gives a second glance to a Texan climbing out of a rowdy, mean sounding 10second hornet with a beer in one hand and beef rib in another...

I think I would even notice that....and of course don't forget the coveralls and straw hat.

I'm just funnin you all....but
I was telling a guy at work about your hornet and how you got into the tens... and people who haven't traveled must believe what they see on TV. He went on to say how could someone who lives in texas, wear coveralls and suck on a piece of straw build a 10 second hornet. I just shook my head and left the room wondering why I even talk to people at all. Fn..idiot

tubbedamx wrote:

spudster wrote: He went on to say how could someone who lives in texas, wear coveralls and suck on a piece of straw build a 10 second hornet. I just shook my head and left the room wondering why I even talk to people at all. Fn..idiot

I'm thinkin' I wouldn't mind havin' said Texan build me a 401!
Only 5800 rpm!? You're kidding me!

69Rebel wrote:

tubbedamx wrote:

spudster wrote: He went on to say how could someone who lives in texas, wear coveralls and suck on a piece of straw build a 10 second hornet. I just shook my head and left the room wondering why I even talk to people at all. Fn..idiot

I'm thinkin' I wouldn't mind havin' said Texan build me a 401!
Only 5800 rpm!? You're kidding me!

No shit!!!!!! Now thats the smartest thing I've heard all day. That motor should live for along time.

say spud...weren't talking about sealing the carb to the ram air holes?? I don't remember since it was a couple of forums ago.

I have to say that made my week to hear you in the tens...Hope your new carb works out.

UHHHHHHHH!!! DUUHHHHHH! yup tens is so dang easy even a texan kin do it YAWL now a bunch of folk are gonna say "you dumbass, dontcha know you gotta twist yer enjun to 9000 rpm ta do thayut? fuck doods it's a stroker. why wood I wunna do something it don't really wanna do? when i shift at 5800, it's only in second gear for a blink of an eye. I see a powerglide would be a huge asset at this point. crap man, i just bought this convertor. NOW I would like to have a 5000-5500 convertor and a powerglide.... I know it would work better. oh well. it's all fun and games and you never finish with a race car. and tell martin davis or davis martin or whutever the fuck you don't need 6000 bux worth of lewis heads to hit the tens. I got like 600 bux and about ten hours of free spudtime in mine. And as far as sealing the carb to the ram air holes, uhh, I do recall something like that... I ain't done it yet. what i did do is take out the hood hinge mounting studs and add a bunch of washers and junk to space the rear of my hood up about two inches... I made my whole hood a cowl induction hood. sure it looks dumb. I like dumb! i reckon it keeps things aired out under there... I ain't liking these dumbass 750 and 830 hp holleys... the 850 has the same size throttles as the 750. I gotta get me a for real carb and get it tweeked in. I really hate buyin shit and then finding reasons not to use it. with all the mistake carburetors I got around here now I could have two pro systems carbs at least. DANGIT!

Hey Spud, what do you think yer total bill was fer that motor? I'm thinkin' I'm gonna do some sand drag racing (stock class this season), and I'm going to need a recipe for a long living, yet fairly competetive engine. I won't be running a stroker, I just don't like the idea.

I dunno, I never added it up. I give aris 1600 bux for the rotating assy, It consisted of a 3.8 stroke crank, 6 inch manley rods, narrowed C&A rod brgs, light pins, BRC flattop pistons, sealed power thin file fit rings. the block was one of those I got with the cheepjeep, and it has about 400 bux in it for boring, honing, decking, plugs bearings and cleaning, i bought a new flexplate and bhj damper,cloyes timing set, theres 500 bux, reed cam and crower lifters,theres 300, milodon pan and single line, pumpand cover,dipstick, valley oil line, theres probably 500 more, about 600 in the heads, 550 more for crower enduro rockers and manley pushrods, maybe a hundred in guideplates and cheapo studs,like 275 for a msd distributer, new carb well the 750 was 500, the 830 was 700, you can see it wasn't cheap. the used torker intake and stock valvecovers were pretty cheap jeez it was like 5000 bux without the carbs, and i had some stuff like plugwires, plugs, waterpump and pulleys and assorted bolts and junk already. cheap? well not exactly. expensive? hmmm that depends on your point of veiw. worth it to pick up a half second? well it was to me. I built my old 401, back seven years ago, for about 2500, that seemed reasonable then. things have gone up a lot in the past couple years, and will go up a lot more in the next few. the best performance deals I have in the car are the ati convertor-799 end of year sale priced, and the transmission, which was pretty much nothing, I paid 300 for it and a 3000 stall convertor used. it still works. i paid 700 bux for a 727 that i used a few times and it petered out. I surely have more money in the car than you would guess, but it's over a period of six years, and I've had a ton of fun with this machine, so I'm probably about like a lot of folks in the bang for the buck range...

$5000 seems like a pretty good price for a 10 second motor, especially one that can run that and not turn even 6K rpm (I still can't get over that). I could do that over the course of a year, no prob.

i shift at 5800, but it turns like 6250 through the lights in the quarter. I think a regular 401 would do plenty good, i just bought this ass'y cuz it looked like a great deal. I think if i built a 401 with compression and a tune like this, it would run pretty close to this engine.

That IS Awesome, Spud. I bet a buncha people wouldn't believe it.

What's your car weigh?

Captain Awesome wrote:That IS Awesome, Spud. I bet a buncha people wouldn't believe it.

What's your car weigh?

You said it, Cap'n.

I'd sure like to see what the guys over on the other forum would say about it.

well, my car weighs about 3250 with me in it. so It's not heavy, but not super light either. yanoe ken parkman doesn't rev the hell outa his stuff either. it's smarter to select a higher stall convertor and shift it early, staying more in the stall zone, letting the convertor multiply the torque, and you will go faster. lots of folks out there think revving into the high end is what it takes. well, with some setups thats probably true, but definitly not all. and i don't care who believes it, if folks wanna delude themselves I'm happy enough with that. hell I ain't no genius by any stretch of the imagination..I believe you can lead a horse to water, but if he thinks its dirt, he won't drink it. more and more I see the other 2 forums as having a lot of folks who have their own hardset ideals on how and what makes a decent rod. they don't wanna hear it. they don't wanna think outside the box. they think you gotta have new stuff, alloy stuff, everything has to be perfect. I'm sick of folks stickin their heads in there tryin to sell their shit. I ain't sellin nuthin, I don't care. to hell with em. let em buy shit. oh fuck it. it's to early to get worked up, i'm eatin some donuts